My Encounter With New Creation Church

I started to believe in Jesus and became a Christian on 2 May 1992 in a denomination church. At first it was a wonderful experience. I was happy to know such a loving and caring God. My days were filled with joy. Going to church, reading the Bible and praying were things I looked forward to do.

However, as months gone by, the dark side of the church began to emerge. It seemed to me that there were 2 layers of the gospel. The first layer is about the love of God – how God loves you that he gave his only Son. Salvation is by faith not works. This layer is used as a marketing gimmick to lure in non-believers to join the church. Once they were in, they will be guided to the second layer.

The second layer of the Gospel is about rules and regulations. It is the dark side of the church usually hidden in any evangelistic events. God demands you to do things for him. He demands you to go to church, read the Bible, pray, go for missions and give him money. Consequently, the things that I used to enjoy became a chore. There was no more joy. He will make you feel guilty if you fail to fulfill the list of chores. Even if you achieve them, he will tell you it is not enough. To make matters worse, the list of chores keep increasing every time I go to church. Salvation by faith has become salvation by rules and regulations. I felt cheated.

No only that, this church had been actively promoting missions. This means church wanted its members to join mission trips and become missionaries to tell people how wonderful this God is. The pastors were experts in manipulating and making you feel guilty if you did not do what they wanted. I was never able to get involved in missions because I considered missions as nothing more than a scam – luring people in using the First Layer and after they were caught, condemn them with the Second Layer. My greatest contribution to the world was not to introduce them to this oppressive religion.

My tolerance was over and the last straw that broke the camel’s back came when the church was planning to build extensions to the existing building. The cost was a few million dollars, which the church did not have. Their solution – squeeze church members for it. At that time, every Sunday service became fund raising campaign. Every manipulative tactic was used to get the church members to cough out the money they wanted. In the opinion of the church leaders, God had already provided the money for the building. It was in the bank accounts of the members. Therefore, it was the responsibility of the church leaders to squeeze them out at all cost.

I asked myself, “Can I trust these pastors anymore?” If they were acting for God, can I respect this God? What type of God will go around asking and manipulating people for money? I left the church.

I was in the dating phase then. So I went to dates’ churches. The good news was, none of them were planning to build anything, thus no fund raising no asking for money. Other than that, the message was the same, God demands you to fulfill the list of things. No more unconditional love for “old” christians.

I did not think that my first church was an isolated case. It was very unlikely that out of all the churches in Singapore, my first church happened to be the only one led by crooks. I suspect the reason why the rest of the pastors did not ask for money was they did not have a building program. So in every sermon, I said in my heart, “Sure, you can talk very well now, but the moment you need money I am sure you will turn into crooks like the pastors in my first church.”

I had no respect for pastors and their God. I don’t need a manipulative God who is only interested in lying and asking for money. However I also dated a Christian girl. I was not prepared to make a drastic change in becoming an atheist. So, my solution was to keep up the pretense. I will just go to church, pretend to be a christian but I will not bother with the messages and I will certainly not give them a single cent.

One day, we came across an unusual church in Suntec City. It was the New Creation Church. There were long queues of people waiting to go in. I said to myself, “Are they no other churches in Singapore that these people can go to? What type of fanatics are these, willing to queue for church service?” After all, based on my observation in other churches there had many empty seats.

That was not all. The stranger part was people were queuing to buy sermon tapes! Aren’t sermons a form of torture to be tolerated? How can anyone with a functional brain spend their money to buy these toxic waste? Of course, I was assuming that the sermons in New Creation Church have the same quality as the rest of the churches I visited.

One day, my girlfriend and I decided to go there after watching a movie in a cinema beside it. I agreed to go there because it was the nearest church from the cinema and I have to keep my pretense but I had decided not to believe anything they said.

The preacher was Pastor Joshua, preaching on salvation by faith through grace. I was amazed. I had never seen anyone so committed to grace. I felt a slight respect for this pastor but I was not going to be cheated again. I suspected that it must be an “evangelistic” sermon, focusing on the first layer of the Gospel.
I was sure if I visited this church often enough, I will get to a sermon on asking for money and promoting mission.

I was wrong. After a few visits, I realised that the message never changed. It was always salvation by faith and nothing else. No manipulations, no asking for money and no missions. This was contrary to my belief all this while. At last I have decided to stay in this church. If I want to pretend to be a christian, I want to do it in a church that is the least evil. I considered the New Creation Church to be the least evil not because I detect any signs of evil there, but it had became my belief system that the word “church” and “pastor” to be inseparatable from evil.

So, we registered for membership. I receive 2 free tapes from the church “Wisdom For Today” and “Benefits Of Tithing”. I tried it out at home. I chose the “Wisdom For Today” first because at that time I considered the word “tithe” to be as vulgar as “mission”. The experience was great! I enjoyed a sermon for the first time. I played the tape over and over again. For the first time after so many years, I was filled with joy and hope. I got to know God for the first time and realize that he truly loves me and not my money. I found a pastor who is not a crook! I still have the tape today but it is spoilt due to over use.

Then I proceeded to try out the “Benefits Of Tithing”. It was another surprise. I realize that tithing is an institution God uses to prosper me. I love it. After listening to the tape, I became very eager for my next salary because I wanted to tithe. For the first time in my life I look forward to tithing.

Thereafter, I became a tape addict. Every Sunday after church, I was queuing to buy tapes and listen to them repeatedly. Later I switched to CDs as I found that the tapes were easily spoilt when I play them repeatedly. New Creation Church is the church I got married in and I have been there till 2 years ago. I do not go there now due to time constrain and the distance from my home. My present spiritual food comes from Jerry Savelle Ministries International in which I am a partner. I will keep believing that one day all my present constraints will be gone and I will bring my family there again.

53 Responses to “My Encounter With New Creation Church”

  1. Daniel Says:

    Thanks be to the God of grace, Mr Yeap, many had the similiar experience as yours, and the Lord is able to open their eyes and is already doing it.

    Yes! Keep believing, keep confessing, because it is true.

    Halleluya

  2. Kev1 Says:

    I thoroughly enjoy Pastor Prince’s messages. There’s always some new revelation from the bible we can learn.

    Shalom,
    Kev1

  3. itooktheredpill Says:

    Good for you Yeap Chee Seng! Don’t worry about the naysayers…they will always be there, but can’t refute the truth:

    The blind…see
    the lame…walk
    the lepers…are cleansed
    the deaf…hear
    the dead…are raised up
    –and–
    the poor… [click here for the answer]

  4. cheee Says:

    Thank you.

  5. Rain Says:

    Cheee —
    God be with you. Riches are nice, but pray for wisdom. “A wise man will hear and will increase learning, and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels. Proverbs 1:5 Pray for Love and Charity. Read I Corinthians Chapter 13. The Last verse of that Chapter, “And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three, but the greatest of these is charity”. “Charity and Love” are the same. Everyone, God Loved us so much that he gave his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ to die on the cross for our sins. We must love also to be in the will of God. I am trying presently so hard to learn to simply love people. God please teach us how to Love as you Love. Amen

  6. cheee Says:

    Riches is the result of wisdom. Find out how much God loves you and you will have no problem loving people. I have written a few articles on wisdom. Feel free to read.

  7. Joshen Says:

    Im currently serving in the youth ministry (video) for NCC and It is great encouragement that many who come by us never leave untransformed… such people then go out and continue to be the salt and light of the world in which we live in.

    I too have begun tithing even though I am still studying in SP and I have been greatly blessed. You’re welcome back anytime brother! All Glory to God.

    Shalom,
    Student whom Jesus loves

  8. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    You tithe so early? Your prosperity must be great!

  9. Jeff Yong Says:

    “tithing is an institution God uses to prosper me”… as in “have a need, plant a seed”? Where did you get these ideas from? Not from the Bible surely.

  10. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    The Bible. If you want to know more about the Bible, you are welcome to read all the articles here. I am willing to guide you to the truth. However, if you are only interested in your doctrine worship and theology, I will ex-communicate you.

  11. Brian Says:

    Hi, Yeap –

    I stumbled upon your blog by mistake, but found it interesting so I read some of it. Couple questions: What does New Creation Church teach is God’s purpose for man? And, how can man be reconciled to God? Thanks for your time and hope you reply soon!

  12. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Here is the answer:
    God wants man to be forever free from sin and be with him forever.

    The only way to be reconciled with God is to believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  13. Brian Says:

    Thanks for your reply. Then, once a person is reconciled to God through faith in Jesus, is that person assured to prosper — or only if s/he tithes? Is God’s purpose for the Bible to bring us prosperity?

  14. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Salvation is prosperity. Once you are a Christian, you are destined to be like God. God prospers in every area of his life. Tithing is God’s instrument to make us rich. Through our tithes, we make it clear that we control our money and not the other way round. As long as money is not your master, you cannot help but to be rich.

  15. Brian Says:

    But you defined salvation differently in your first reply to me, indicating that salvation is being freed from sin and reconciled to God by believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Does God truly prosper the believer in every area of this life? Or does He instead say the believer’s life will be filled with trials, temptations, and persecution? (Matthew 10:17, John 16:33) You say “Tithing is God’s instrument to make us rich.” But like a precursor to today’s taxes, tithes were actually taxes in the Old Testament for funding the national budget in Israel, which was a theocracy. Christians are not even commanded to tithe, as the New Testament teaches, let alone with the notion that doing so will prosper them. Christians voluntarily give to The Lord, not expecting to receive $$ in return.
    How do you biblically support the promise of material riches to the believer?

  16. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    It means the same. Being free from sin and reconciled to God by believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ is prosperity.

    I have written an article on tithe and I can refer to you if you want. The purpose of tithe in the Bible is to make believers rich.

    If you want biblical support the promise of material riches to the believers, click on “Foundation Of Prosperity” on the left side of this blog.

    As for the trials, tribulations and persecutions, please click on the category “Victory Over Trials” at the left side of this blog. I have written quite a number of articles on it.

  17. Brian Says:

    No, Yeap, tithing is not God’s instrument to make us rich, materially or otherwise. I’ve already shared with you what the Bible teaches — that tithing was the paying of taxes in the Old Testament for funding the national budget in Israel, which was a theocracy. Despite what your pieces desperately try to convey (they twist and misapply scripture), there is simply no biblical support for getting rich from tithing because it’s not true.

    You equate salvation, God’s great gift to man, with prosperity (getting $$ rich). Yeap, this reveals that you do not understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that God wants the believer to be materially rich. Listen to this:

    “Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, for we brought nothing into the world, and we cannot take anything out of the world. But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils.” (1 Timothy 6:6-10)

    Yeap, do you want riches now (in this life) or later (in eternity)? Jesus says, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?” (Luke 9:23,25)

  18. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Brian,
    The truth prevails no matter how you try to pervert it. I have written on the love of money in this blog. I can show you if you want.

    It seems that you doctrine worshippers think only your kind have the sole right to quote the Bible.

  19. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    By the way thanks for sharing Luke 9:23-25. I am going to write an article on it next week to show its true meaning.

  20. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Hi Brian, I have written an article on Luke 9:23-25 today. I hope you like it.

  21. Sean Says:

    From your blog:
    ” My tolerance was over and the last straw that broke the camel’s back came when the church was planning to build extensions to the existing building. The cost was a few million dollars, which the church did not have. Their solution – squeeze church members for it.”

    How does above differs from the fund raising exercise New Creation Church did for the Integration hub?

  22. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    I am not attending New Creation Church anymore. If I do and it uses the same dirty tricks, my respond will still be the same. A sin is a sin. The name “New Creation Church” makes no difference.

  23. Sean Says:

    Hi Chee Seng,

    From your blog, it seems to appear that you are singing praises about NCC, the reasons given for not attending NOW is due to time/distance.

    Question is what is your view on that fund raising exercise, it would seems that you are ok with it given that you plan to bring your family back there again once the current time/distance constraint is over.

  24. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Why should I sing praises to any church? I only state the truth. Before I attend NCC, I was convinced that all churches are run by crooks.

    I can choose whether to attend or not to attend any church as I please. No one can threaten me to go to any church. There is no hudud law here that demands all Christians to attend church.

    As for fund raising, there is nothing wrong with it as long as it is done ethically. This means no threats, no manipulation and no telling people that God has provided the money for the church and the money is not in your pockets.

    As for my future church plan, I don’t think I will go back there for two reasons:
    1. too crowded.
    2. its theme is grace. I prefer prosperity.

  25. Daniel Says:

    Hello Chee Seng
    I chanced into your weblog today. It is interesting to note that your this article was written in Dec 2007.
    I have attended a number of churches myself, and also NCC bible study nights in the past.
    Christians should best read the bible for themselves and ask God for whatever truth we are seeking.
    There are no hidden agendas in christianity.
    There are no two layers of Gospel, etc. There is only one same Gospel.
    Different churches just have different traditions.
    All are our own experiences and perceptions.
    The simplest truth in the bible regarding giving is we give willingly, out of love for God.
    God bless you all.

  26. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    You are right. There is no hidden agenda in christianity. The hidden agenda is the creation of religious churches.

  27. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Brian, I did not put your post up because it takes up to much space. The bottom line is I was in a religious church before and I know all your reasonings. My stand is, I am not interested to be a mindless puppet to be told what I should think and do or I will be send to hell. If your view of christianity is correct, I am not interested to be a Christian.

  28. Jacques de Bois Says:

    Dear Chee Seng,
    I can’t follow the theology here because like all theology it’s a bit complicated.
    When you say you would throw out Christianity if it doesn’t accord with your preferences this (on the face of it) sounds a bit extreme.
    But maybe you have attended churches which emphasise materialistic goals, make huge financial demands on their congregations, and compete for numbers with other churches of the same kind. This seems to be what you are saying.
    I wonder whether you have tried an ordinary church (Anglican or Catholic, for example) where there are not constant demands for money, and where the concern if not materialism but with worshipping God in quietness and gladness, and who support each other pastorally as friends in Christ.

  29. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    My first church is an Anglican. This is the church that tried to squeeze money from its members every Sunday for its building fund.

    I am an engineer not theologian. Christianity is nothing more than a tool to me. It is a means to an end, not an end itself. I was not born with the desire to be a Christian. In other words, I don’t have any Christian genes in me.

    By the way I have never come across any churches that emphasise materialistic goals. I have only been to a church that make huge financial demands on their congregations, that is my first Anglican church.

  30. john Says:

    I have been reading the bible and I feel that
    Matt 19:24 is not aligned to your comments. Pls share your point of view. Thanks

  31. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Matt 19:24 follow by Matt 19:25 and Matt 19:26. Use Matt 19:26 as the context of the whole passage.

    A knife has a sharp edge that can harm you but it also has a handle that enables you to hold it safely. Use it. If you want to pick up a knife, hold the handle. If you want to enter a building, look for the door. Don’t walk straight into the wall. Likewise, look for the handle or door in the Bible.

    You will never go to hell for being rich.

  32. Jacques de Bois Says:

    Dear Chee Seng, thanks for your answer. It clears up some things. But I am still a bit puzzled. You say you do not have a Christian gene in your body and Christianity is just ‘a means to an end’ for you. Could you please tell us what this ‘end’ is? — Jacques

  33. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Anything I want.If I am poor, I want to be rich. If I am sick, I want to be healthy. If I have problems I want to have solutions. Christianity is one of the tools I use.

  34. Jacques de Bois Says:

    Dear Chee, that sounds interesting! It means Christianity is like positive thinking or magic or a genie in a lamp. Does this Christianity have a god or a godlet or something of that kind? Is this godlet something we can just manipulate to get what we want? It sounds like a kind of idol we can use when we want, is that right? Sorry if my questions are a bit naive. I am trying to follow what you mean. As I think about it, it sounds like a kind of techno-religion. You put a coin in the slot, pull the handle, and out pops what you want. Another thing I am wondering is, what the psychology of this means. Does this sort or religion help us be more mature about life? You can probably see I find ideas a bit of a struggle and I don’t understand them very well. But thanks for your answers. They are really interesting.

  35. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Thank you. A tool is a tool. I don’t worship tools. God did not make the man for christianity. He made christianity for man. Christianity is like money, a good servant but a bad master.

  36. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    As for religion, all religions are a waste of time. I consider maturity as being able to use tools and not being used by tools.

  37. Jacques de Bois Says:

    Dear Chee Seng, This is amazing stuff. Can I check the following with you? I am thinking what would happen if my Buddhist friends adopted this prosperity approach too. Instead of renouncing their egos and material attachments so that the Buddha nature would manifest in them, they would use their ascetic exercises to become good at making money. I guess strengthening the ego and getting rich quick might mean renouncing enlightenment. But at least they would have money to hang on to! And it would mean getting rid of religion too. So, it could work for other faiths besides Christianity. The only thing I don’t understand is that Jesus tells us to follow him, and he and gave himself for us. Does his unselfishness mean he was being religious? Would it have been better if he had set up a major business in the Roman Empire with a high turnover and big profits? Lots of people would have followed him because he could have made them shareholders, and maybe used them to expand his market through pyramid selling. And none of this would be religious. But maybe I am running ahead here and that’s why I want to check with you if these ideas are wrong.

  38. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    First, I am not in the position to speak for any religion. All of us have the right to choose whether we want to be above or below our religion. Likewise, we can choose whether to treat a hammer like a tool of like a god.

    Jesus died poor for us to live rich. This is a clear truth no matter how theologians try to manipulate it. The most unselfish thing a Christian can do is to be rich. When you are rich you can choose whether you want or don’t want to help others. When you poor, you don’t have this choice, unless you are talking about giving away 50 cents out of your 1 dollar.

    The bottom line is, choice. I want make my own choice on what I want and I don’t like to be threatened with hell as what religions are doing. Read the articles in this blog and you will see that God is never religious. The worship of religion is idolatary.

  39. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    By the way, I have proven in this blog that Jesus was rich when he was on earth. He never asked people for money or had to take up any jobs to survive. He even had a specialist to carry his wallet for him.

  40. Jacques de Bois Says:

    This is mind boggling stuff–so far from any Christianity I have known before. My mind just races along with it. It seems that Christianity is an instrument for making money. We should use Christianity but not be used by it–for example, we shouldn’t bother caring about others, go to church, tell the truth, respect other people–all that stuff is what theologians require, and what do they know about anything? Jesus justs wants me think about my self, nobody else, and to make a shed load of money just for me. I can see why you put this on a website. It is really different. Wow, did Jesus really teach this, and Christians have been so stupidly kind and self-sacrificial ever since? All those saints and martyrs! Wow, did they miss the point! This is such a big thing, though that occasionally I have doubts. What if I make a shed load of money and then find God didn’t want me do that? Am I just being a catholic when I think like that instead of a born again money making Christian? It takes a while for me to turn my mind round this one.

  41. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Gotcha. You are revealing your theological characteristics now. You have intentionally manipulated my words.

    I never said Christianity is an instrument for making money alone.
    I never said we shouldn’t bother caring about others, go to church, tell the truth, respect other people–all.
    I never said Jesus justs wants me think about my self, nobody else, and to make a shed load of money just for me.

    Theologians are hypocrites. Jesus called them brood of vipers and white washed tombs. The problem of being a catholic is you can still go to hell no matter what you do. My condolence to you.

  42. Jacques de Bois Says:

    Dear Chee Seng, thanks for your reply. You are, as ever, one step ahead of me, and seem to understand me better than myself–which is amazing too. I was thinking we are more alike than you had suggested, and still think this is true (do let me know if I am wrong). We both think Christianity comes down to what we do, more than what we say. I have just been struggling to get my head around the idea that God wants us to be rich–this is a genuinely new idea to me. I had always thought that God blesses and saves the poor–as in the story of Lazarus and the poor man.
    Also, I did not realise you would believe in hell. That surprises me a bit. Can you tell me, might this mean that poor go to hell and the rich go to heaven? This seems topsy-turvy at first. I feel as though I am re-learning the basics. (I was thinking from what you say that there is no hell as God just wants to bless us–but I do not understand these theological ideas, so I need help in working them out. Thanks for your patience, Jacques.

  43. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    The answer is simple. If all your sins are paid for, you are as good as having no sin. You are technically and legally holy. It will be illegal for God to send you to hell. It has nothing to do with you being rich or poor. Can you say the same as a catholic? Is your salvation a certainty regardless of what you do?

    Whether I am rich or poor, my place in heaven is guaranteed by the blood of Jesus at the Cross of Calvary. My salvation is a certainty. I am not getting rich to go to heaven. I want to get rich to be a blessing to all the people on earth.

    By the way, just because I don’t worship christianity, it does not mean that I must be living in sin. As the son of God, my nature is holiness, not sin. In other words, I am not blackmailed into not sinning.

  44. Jacques de Bois Says:

    Dear Chee Seng, thanks for answering me. I have thought that Christ saved me in order to transfigure me, to make me a different person, and that this process takes a long time. To be who God wants me to be is what it means to be saved, and this is a future event. If God is merciful and by his grace I respond, then I shall be saved at the last–thanks be to God. I am glad that you say the poor and the rich can be saved. This encourages me. When you say you want to be rich so that you can bless other people this sounds amazingly cool. You are a generous person and I hope you have opportunity to do this. As to being made holy by Christ, I guess this means you will act in a godly way, resisting wrongdoing and doing what is right. In that case, I would rightly revere you. That sounds like the right way.

  45. E. Tan Says:

    Hi Chee Seng,

    I can relate to what happend and how you may have felt as I did have similar backgrounds in my previous church except that in place of the asking of donations, we have been fed with the need to perform righteous works to show ourselves to be acceptable christians. In short, we have to behave like good christians and any thing short would earn a sharp reproof. Well, I think there’s nothing wrong about being corrected but when it becomes a demand. Just like what you mentioned in your ’second layer’.

    I’m really joyful to be directed to New Creation Church. From where I sit every Sunday at the overflow rooms, I notice that a good part of the church are elderly people. Nothing wrong about being young, but hey, here’s a church being accused of preaching prosperity (something which can sound quite amateurish) with a whole lot of more experianced persons feeding on the sermons. It shows that the people with experiance have verified and agreed with the doctrines shared.

    But for me, I guess what touched me most is about the revelation about our righteousness in Christ Jesus and then followed by His abounding grace and mercies. That righteousness is a gift from God which causes one to reign in life. I guess this could also be the truth that have let you to understand that our prosperity should be found in Christ as we qualify as righteous to receive from God.

    Btw, I love your direct to the point answer. God bless you.

    Baruk Hashem Adonai,
    E. Tan

  46. Ayn Says:

    Hi, chanced upon your blog recently and what an interesting piece of article you’ve written. Interesting to me because New Creation is currently in the midst of expansion too and investing in this mega project at Buona Vista. Did you experience anything similiar to your ‘exploitative’ relation at your previous church?

  47. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    I am not there anymore. Anyway, there can be ethical way of raising funds.

  48. spectator Says:

    I think tithing is good…provided we do it for the right reasons. There are brothers and sisters who need our help finanically wise and we can help a little then all the better. BUT I think to expect something in return for tithing might be missing the point. If we love another, we would help them without expecting anything return. Would you expect your beloved to give you back the money if they didn’t have any? Jesus condemned the authorities for tithing and such but missing the most important thing which was love for GOd and others. Hope it helps.

  49. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    I suggest you read the Bible to find out the real purpose of tithing.

  50. joshen Says:

    HEY! Its me again! haha! Its been almost a year since i last posted… wow.. time flies.. How have you been?

    We do have a new building project up at the moment and while we are accepting offerings to help fund the building, the tithes are not going into the building fund.. Tithes are tithes and are meant for priestly uses. We do conduct special “miracle seed” services once or twice a year to give the world a glimpse of how mightily God can work, especially in times of famine.. the last one I’m sure the newspapers made public gathered $19million in 2 hours( 15 mins of offering time X 4 services X 2 sundays) during the recession is nothing short of a miracle..

    the church’s stand is this, god commissioned it, God will pay for it. And how He does it is really amazing… He hides it in the pockets of the people.. If the money that will be used for the building is to be from the common folk, will not God also give them the means? He is not unreasonable that He has to take from one to bless another..

    We at NCC believe that God is not interested in blessing just 1 party… We are blessed to be a blessing! Money should flow from one to another, and not be stagnantly piling up in our hands.. Thats what it is to be faithful with the least..

    As for me, I have seen a change in my finances… No longer do I have to ask my mom for extra cos I ran out in the middle of the week, but I now set aside 20% to go into savings, 10% into tithes and 70% for free spending.. its been almost 3 mths since I needed a “top up” .. And the best part is the mth that i gave the most, i ended up having the most surplus as well..

    I believe personally that while Prosperity is good, our focus should not be on it.. Why chase after prosperity when you can follow the One who prospers you? Cos what we want isnt really the money, but what the money can bring.. Jesus can bypass all that and give you straight the blessedness..

    Prosperity alone definitely does not bring peace and joy… Look at King Solomon… the richest man ever lived… Everything his eye desired he could have… but he HATED life.. until he realized that it was a God shaped hole.. and sought the Lord again..

    Hope to hear from you soon? Be greatly blessed!
    Rgds,
    Joshen

  51. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Nice try but I suspect only the true Christians will take you seriously. The doctrine worshippers and theologians will continue to believe what the devil wants them to believe.

    In other words, if you say bad things about the church, they will take your words as Gospel truth but the moment you give any positive testimony, they will call you a liar.

    The bottom line is, it is a waste of time to reason with fools.

  52. Albert Says:

    Hi…

    Chanced upon this site and was going through the various views.

    I’ve been a Christian for over 20 years and have been attending NCC for the past 5…

    I only believe in one thing… Critique is good and healthy… But most importantly, the only reason I’ve stayed in this church is because my life has been transformed.

    I was a smoker for 18 years and tried umpteenth times to quit without any success. Coming here made me put Jesus first and that changed everything. Not overnight I must say, but like most things that last in life, it’s all a process.

    There’s just so many things I can say about my transformed life but I think I’d just encourage all to ask ourselves if the church we’re going to makes us love God more?

    In my whole Christian life, I’ve been “trying” to love God but here, I feel God’s love for me so much that I endeavour to discover Him and His Love for me everyday…

    We’re all a family of Christians… Prosper or not is really immaterial. But I do believe that our God is a Big God and if He has not witheld Jesus from us, how much more will He provide for our every need?

    God bless you and your blog!

  53. Yeap Chee Seng Says:

    Thanks Albert for your testimony.

    Here is some truth on prosperity.
    Prosper or not is immaterial only to those who have no intention to help others. Those of us who have the desire to help others to the best we can will also want to increase the limitations on “the best we can”. Thus we desire to prosper.


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